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blast off on another episode of

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hero paranormal podcast my name is ryan

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and i am the original outlaw of the

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airwaves bringing you all things hero

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this vip episode and more broadcasting

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just from the base of la madre mountain

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just south of area 51. in the silver

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state

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that's right nevada sin city and

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we've got a good one today because i'm

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not going to mess around much we're just

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going to get right to it

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talking about ryan layton bigfoot

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uh ron johnson daryl smith

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legendary utah bigfoot people

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others uh ufos and

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monoliths and we're even gonna get into

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some really

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strange other sightings is all i can

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call them without going into

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too much detail stuff that uh

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goes around possible well military slash

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tide installation it uh isn't one that i

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would call a military installation but

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militarily tied

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another sighting that is near a

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monastery

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and has a more occult well

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foreboding about it very eerie tale

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and a tale near the chemical depot

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another military installation

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in utah where well we'll get into that

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one too

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it's a bunch of weird eerie and

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you know strange the way our

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conversation just bounced

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when we uh got together and chatted and

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uh well anyway let's let's chat some

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more i hope to get other

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utah bigfoot experts that

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were really boots on the ground during

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strangest stuff that's

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really ever happened in the state but

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then again i mean it's 20 20.

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don't downplay anything happening right

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now just as recently as this week there

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a monolith found in southern utah

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somewhere

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during a sheep count i'm not mistaken i

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believe it was done from a helicopter

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long story short some law enforcement

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officials ended up

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doing an actual social media post but i

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mean the darn thing

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looks pretty strange if you haven't

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checked it out go to fox news 13

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and type in monolith and it should pull

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up as it's very recent news

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maybe nothing but it might be something

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so anyway we're going to talk about

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other things that may have been

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something

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and some of these are in the past others

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are not so far back but i don't like to

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waste time

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only thing i'm going to promote is

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heroparanormal.com

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go there check it out and that way you

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can access the archives

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in a easier faster downloadable format

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than just youtube unless you're at home

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if you're jumping in a car jumping on a

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plane wherever you are sometimes you

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want to download that quick

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and you can do that just go to

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heroparanormal.com

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hit archive and it'll take you there so

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without further ado

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let's talk leighton bigfoot ufos and

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hey ryan what's happening brother hey mr

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leighton how you doing i might

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no get to talk to you know i would i

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know you've had your doubts because of

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the dave thing

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mm-hmm you can't but i don't know what

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he said to you or whatever or that but i

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get this feeling

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that he's throwing some [\h__\h] in your

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direction and i want you to know it's

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not whatever he

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said that's negative how i feel towards

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you or whether

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it's not it's not a goddamn grain of

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soup to it okay

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yup yup yup now i thought

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you've been nothing but good to me

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you've been a good buddy

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and i every time i wear your las vegas

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baseball hat i'm constantly i got your i

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got your energy on the top of my head

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almost every day

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that's awesome man i'm calling you uh

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mr leighton i'm calling you from a

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bigfoot

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if you would be interested

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in discussing bigfoot for about a half

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an hour to maybe 45 minutes

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i would be happy to contribute whatever

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that's awesome i wanted to ask you

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question why are you doing that on this

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subject at this time

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well you know a lot of reasons um

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ron johnson posted some images

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of well daryl smith and it kind of got

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talking to ron

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and iran is still

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yep ron is still alive and kicking and

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more than anything it's just he's

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by the way before we go on my my adopted

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daughter is living here with me

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she thinks it'd be fun to meet you one

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of these days

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oh what a fun dude you were like you

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you're both should be on the cover of a

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g2 magazine

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oh i don't know about that i don't know

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about that but thank you

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yeah can you yeah yeah where'd he go i'm

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still here

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yep did you hear all that i did i did

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that's great

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yeah he's a good looking dude he looks

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like he should be on the cover of a jean

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gentlemen's quarterly uh magazine oh i

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don't know about that

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so he admires good studs so

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i know you're a married man but she

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thought it would be cool to meet you

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i've told her a lot of cool stuff about

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you

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is somebody interesting you know yeah

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i know and you know the weird thing is

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you went out a lot with daryl and with

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ron johnson

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looking for no i still have dreams of

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daryl on occasion

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yeah i bet he yeah yeah

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he i think he even showed himself to me

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one night

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a few years ago i had a dream of him

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he's standing about 10 feet away smiling

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a pig and [\h__\h] and

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god it was so real i can't forget him to

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tell you and i

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thought and then when i woke up i

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thought oh god

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he was actually standing in front of me

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it was so so surreal you know

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i remember you telling me about that

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dream and

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oh hell i still think about it on

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occasion it was so

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goddamn real i remember man

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it was um it was a dream about

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oh my gosh well yeah he was

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and you know daryl was like that no i'm

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not the big i don't mean to boast to

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brad but i left him

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i was one i left a big impression on

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darryl years ago when he

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at a mere farm meeting in salt lake and

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he found out

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that i was in the bigfoot my hilly

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turned on to me like a

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big dude in doo-doo i couldn't

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i couldn't get rid of him that day

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because he was so turned on to meet

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somebody that was uh

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involved in the bigfoot subject

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and he he was he was secretly so

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interested in all his life

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he was so into it and that brings up

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oh god almighty he was obsessed right

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do you remember the map that goes back

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to 1989 when i met him

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you remember the map that amazing map he

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had with all the little feet

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all over it in the state of

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he's a utah guy i know you loved him

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i wish oh to death i wish i knew

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funny little you know bigfoot in a way

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was an escape

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oh yeah did you catch that big time big

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yeah because his what he did for a

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living was so

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boring that he needed something

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exciting in his life and bigfoot

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filled that gap for him uh ryan

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and you know he was so good at his job

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it was kind of the same thing he did a

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really good job with three by five cards

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oh yeah i know but what i'm at what he

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selling uh he it was the this actually

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was a boring

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living that he did but he did it and

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that was still an insurance

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excuse me i got a mouth full of fiber

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yeah he was an insurance salesman i

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remember he kind of caught me he kind of

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pushed me in the direction

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of real estate because i remember i was

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gonna sell a house

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and i thought i was really smart at the

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time this was years ago

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i mean i met daryl i think in 2004

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five and it was

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he explained the math behind not selling

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the house

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and i was my jaw hit the floor because

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numbers no calculator

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no nothing just yeah i'll bet you didn't

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know this about and then we'll get back

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on subject yeah

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crack i'm leaving it off it's all good

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it's all good

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his dad and his brothers are

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multi-millionaires all together in the

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real estate world

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i bet you didn't know that i bet i never

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told you that he never did either

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i never knew that oh my god they're

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amazing

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when you find out the past but we'll say

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yeah he was he was he was something else

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darryl was something

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else and yeah well let me just tell you

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one funny story i hate to

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kick that you off but i'm rude anyway so

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go for it no let's do it

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uh there was a movie they were

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advertising at

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the tower the gator a few years ago

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one night and it was a packed crowd in

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there on ninth

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ninth and ninth i know you're familiar

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with the the tower

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the tower yeah the tower and sugar house

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well anyway i was the medium there that

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night

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and good hell but people were you know

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in the lobby and all that wasn't that

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big

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it was packed people like starting

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in town i mean you could no i mean talk

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corona virus fred but he was right next

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to each other

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years ago and we were supposed to meet

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so that we you know that night for the

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event

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well he didn't know he was in there

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and it was bought you couldn't even move

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in there it was just

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bumper to bumper humans standing and

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you know with all that well he didn't

287
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know that i had spotted him

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this is so this is so funny orion

289
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and so i got right close to him

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because you could see everybody just

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standing stacked in there like a

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a stalk of asparagus everybody

293
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and so i got crouched down where he

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didn't see me because

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people were all you couldn't even move

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in that place you know

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and uh i started stepping on his foot

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and ankle

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and i was ducked down because i had all

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and he didn't even know what the hell

301
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was going on who was stepping on it

302
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he was like what's this guy's problem

303
00:12:57,750 --> 00:12:54,480
what is it oh yeah i was making it

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a little bit painful too and he just sat

305
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there with a smile looking at everybody

306
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what is this what is this guy's problem

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oh that was funny i

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i still think about that and laughed my

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ass off and i think about that

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oh my god you get the picture

311
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anyway so when ron

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i i remember ron and him and yourself

313
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had some pretty amazing experiences

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out by well dang it was out by

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murker-ish am i right or wilson no i'm

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sorry wilson air force

317
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yeah more of them than me i never really

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could sing anything

319
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myself personally do you remember

320
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that were you involved now

321
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was it alan woody that was on that case

322
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as well he's

323
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he's deceased since but i know that he

324
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was on that case for a while

325
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was it what was his name i can't

326
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remember but that there was a case out

327
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that way where a woman was

328
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seeing i think dave rosenfeld was on it

329
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too a woman was seeing

330
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something out there and it was a new

331
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build and a new area

332
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and newly developed i can't remember

333
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exactly it was in utah and i think it

334
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was out by one of the bases or possibly

335
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the chemical depot

336
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but i don't remember too much about i

337
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know what you're thinking of

338
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i was always intrigued by that case

339
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oh that's the one oh yeah i know exactly

340
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i believe i know what you're talking

341
00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:30,399
about that's

342
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when you want to hear it for a quick

343
00:14:38,150 --> 00:14:37,360
oh yeah yeah oh please please i would

344
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love to hear it

345
00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:41,440
yeah on restricted property

346
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on the burn plant you're right you got

347
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that right

348
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it was on the burn plant property with

349
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defense you know this

350
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is uh accessing force

351
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uh stay out you know government property

352
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you know natural you know and a big one

353
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you know keep people off of that you

354
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know which was several probably several

355
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hundred acres

356
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you know surrounding the uh the plant

357
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oh yeah yeah you know with the wire

358
00:15:13,990 --> 00:15:12,399
turned into you know the big job like

359
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that but what happened here

360
00:15:20,389 --> 00:15:17,519
the one you want to remember the most

361
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is what yeah i'll never forget that how

362
00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:22,880
amazing that was uh

363
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security at the plant they had humvee

364
00:15:32,189 --> 00:15:30,710
you know around the perimeter here and

365
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there in that yeah

366
00:15:41,749 --> 00:15:36,480
1700 feet away one of the humvee

367
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patrols started a large dark

368
00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:46,079
uh quick moving individual

369
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and so at the time it was initially

370
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reported that there was a breach of

371
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security

372
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with an individual dressed in black

373
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appearing to be quite large

374
00:16:07,350 --> 00:16:04,389
well when they dashed over there to

375
00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:07,360
intercept the individual

376
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there was nobody in sight

377
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and you know it didn't imagine it

378
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probably only took them a few seconds

379
00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:17,920
to put that vehicle or it could have

380
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been more than one vehicle of memory

381
00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:20,560
certainly

382
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to apprehend the individual who was not

383
00:16:27,430 --> 00:16:25,199
supposed to be

384
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inside that bench in that low uh

385
00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:29,279
priority secure location

386
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right right

387
00:16:37,749 --> 00:16:36,000
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so so it just

388
00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:37,759
was so when they get there there's no

389
00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:40,480
there's nobody to apprehend

390
00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:43,680
and there's no way an individual could

391
00:16:50,949 --> 00:16:48,240
have rammed 150 yards approximately

392
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to pole vault over the fence with pole

393
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vault

394
00:16:59,269 --> 00:16:57,910
and so it's been long thought that it

395
00:17:03,030 --> 00:16:59,279
was actually a

396
00:17:07,590 --> 00:17:03,040
sasquatch type apparition

397
00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:07,600
or individual that they actually saw

398
00:17:14,309 --> 00:17:10,640
and in the initial report to the news

399
00:17:18,150 --> 00:17:14,319
i'll never forget the base commander

400
00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:18,160
making a point of uh

401
00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:20,799
these the height and the approximate

402
00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:21,360
weight

403
00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:25,120
of the mystery individual

404
00:17:29,669 --> 00:17:27,280
now see they could have if that was a

405
00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:29,679
normal person that had breached the

406
00:17:33,669 --> 00:17:31,200
they would have been able to intercept

407
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an apprehension he had to know where to

408
00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:35,200
go

409
00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:38,080
it doesn't take but a few seconds for uh

410
00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:40,559
humvee to do it 1700 feet

411
00:17:46,789 --> 00:17:43,280
and arrest the guy and you know there

412
00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:46,799
wasn't a guy

413
00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:49,600
amazing and i i remember the commander

414
00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:51,280
making a big deal out of the height

415
00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:54,480
of the weight and so you know

416
00:17:57,990 --> 00:17:56,799
what difference does it matter how big

417
00:18:01,110 --> 00:17:58,000
or how tall or

418
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:01,120
how much approximate weight the

419
00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:04,960
inner looter the uh

420
00:18:12,789 --> 00:18:08,480
uh is it it doesn't matter you know a

421
00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:12,799
uh so we kind of let the cat out of the

422
00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:13,200
bag

423
00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,120
by being so concerned of the heist and

424
00:18:19,029 --> 00:18:17,520
the what making a point to the media

425
00:18:21,669 --> 00:18:19,039
about the heist and the way

426
00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:21,679
you still with me oh absolutely it's

427
00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:22,960
just so amazing

428
00:18:28,870 --> 00:18:26,320
yeah what happened and then for

429
00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:28,880
like two to three days later it was

430
00:18:33,830 --> 00:18:30,799
constant

431
00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:33,840
air patrol in the area

432
00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:36,000
to find the uh what's the word against

433
00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:38,880
the intruder

434
00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:42,080
no car

435
00:18:48,789 --> 00:18:46,080
parked by no nothing no tracks

436
00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:48,799
there was no intruder right i think dogs

437
00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:50,160
were even brought in

438
00:18:55,029 --> 00:18:53,280
uh after the fact and

439
00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:55,039
they couldn't even leave them anywhere

440
00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:57,280
to nothing but somebody was there with

441
00:19:02,789 --> 00:18:59,840
those big proportions

442
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:02,799
unbelievable and this until they've been

443
00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:03,520
from the air

444
00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:06,400
for you know quite some time and never

445
00:19:11,029 --> 00:19:08,000
found their man

446
00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:11,039
yeah because that their man was probably

447
00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:12,080
inter-dimensional

448
00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:15,600
actually that's what it sounds like

449
00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:17,919
and they're and the sheriff patrols on

450
00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:19,760
the outside were running all over in the

451
00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:20,160
area

452
00:19:25,110 --> 00:19:22,320
doing their part too and nothing

453
00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:25,120
suspicious was ever found

454
00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:28,320
so it's uh but i think

455
00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:31,760
the uh within the system uh ryan i think

456
00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:32,080
the

457
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:36,160
uh security and intelligence figured out

458
00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:37,520
eventually what the hell they were

459
00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:39,520
dealing with probably right off

460
00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:42,480
shortly after the get-go i would assume

461
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:44,000
they followed my grip

462
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:47,200
they added it to an x-file or something

463
00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:58,590
that's the one because i had in about

464
00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:00,320
2006

465
00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:03,120
i had a co-worker i was working at a uh

466
00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:03,760
hotel

467
00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:07,520
company and i had a co-worker who had a

468
00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:10,480
experience out there similar with a

469
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:11,600
large being

470
00:20:15,669 --> 00:20:13,600
this was years before it would have been

471
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:15,679
around the same timeline actually

472
00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:17,200
and that's why i really wanted to get

473
00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:19,039
some information about if you knew what

474
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:20,720
years that was

475
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,760
because this co-worker saw well a

476
00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:25,520
similar thing where

477
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:28,080
they were out there and they were

478
00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:29,840
thinking about finding a camp spot

479
00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:31,600
somewhere around murker

480
00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:34,400
you know not the greatest place to camp

481
00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:36,320
i actually think they were one canyon

482
00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:38,400
over is that over

483
00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:40,960
is that right yeah yeah yeah i think

484
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:42,720
they were at that one which is also

485
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:45,840
within you know throwing distance

486
00:20:49,029 --> 00:20:48,720
to that to that same area so i don't

487
00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:49,039
know

488
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:53,440
say this is probably

489
00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:56,720
the year 2000 one two

490
00:21:01,270 --> 00:21:00,880
or three okay it's been a hell of a long

491
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:01,280
time

492
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:07,760
very interesting great case another case

493
00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:10,159
i wanted to ask you about was the case

494
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:13,039
out in your neck of the woods up on the

495
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:13,919
mountain

496
00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:16,320
where it was like miles i was just

497
00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:18,720
thinking of getting my cd out the other

498
00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:20,640
day of that i haven't seen that

499
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:22,640
for such a long time yeah go ahead

500
00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:24,480
address that question

501
00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:26,320
what are you gonna do your podcast here

502
00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:28,480
in about half an hour oh no we're live

503
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:29,120
now

504
00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:33,039
that good thing i didn't

505
00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:35,039
use any of the seven words you shouldn't

506
00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:36,480
use on the radio

507
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:42,789
oh we're doing it now i didn't unders i

508
00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:44,080
didn't even realize that

509
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:46,320
i'll shoot y'all i'll shoot you a link

510
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:48,080
i'll shoot you a link when i'm done

511
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:50,159
oh and it's ron it's ron johnson's

512
00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:52,000
birthday so we should shout out and

513
00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:54,640
shoot him at happy birthday

514
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:58,960
another another bigfoot researcher from

515
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:01,280
kind of that same era

516
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:05,200
i would say he's 68 years old today

517
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:07,280
i bet you're real close if not right on

518
00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:08,320
the money

519
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:12,080
not 60 80

520
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:15,679
60 70. oh that's cool

521
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:18,960
yeah he's like anyway he's a cool cat

522
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:20,000
he's a cool cat

523
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:23,440
he's got a a few interesting endeavors

524
00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:26,559
of his own bigfoot wise um

525
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:29,200
that story well gosh that footage

526
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:29,600
there's

527
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:32,640
actually footage it's not just you know

528
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:33,840
a story or

529
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:37,280
a personal experience there's an actual

530
00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:38,880
video that goes along with it that i

531
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:40,559
think is two minutes long or something

532
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:42,320
can you go into that and and kind of the

533
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:43,760
back story about it

534
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:47,200
oh wait run run through that again i'm

535
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:48,240
i'm a little bit

536
00:22:53,909 --> 00:22:51,919
lost there yeah i i think there was

537
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:53,919
i'm not quite following that i i think

538
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:55,760
there was it wasn't this isn't just a

539
00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:58,400
story we're talking about that video

540
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:01,440
that was caught on the mountain there in

541
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:03,440
your neck of the woods in layton

542
00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:06,240
was it layton yeah yeah and in the

543
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:08,720
middle of the winter and

544
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:11,760
uh my gosh i mean you were right there

545
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:14,320
boots on the ground moments afterwards

546
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:16,000
can you tell us a little bit about that

547
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,919
story and a little bit about the

548
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:19,360
backstory and how

549
00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:23,360
you ended up uh investigating that case

550
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:25,840
so i i actually wasn't there right after

551
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:26,960
it happened

552
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:30,320
i found out sometime later i can't

553
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:30,960
remember

554
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:33,039
right off hand how much later i found

555
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:34,080
out but what

556
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:36,960
what happened that day it's a very

557
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:39,120
simple beginning

558
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:42,960
a kid uh that lived a great distance

559
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:44,960
away

560
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:48,840
was used to bringing out his uh

561
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:50,000
binoculars

562
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:51,520
in looking at the mountains and the

563
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:53,279
mountain it's not real close i'd

564
00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:55,919
say i'd say he was probably at least

565
00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:57,200
three quarters of a mile

566
00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:00,640
or so away but he was used to

567
00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:03,279
you know nice quiet morning and he was

568
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:05,679
used to putting binoculars on the

569
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:07,919
and you know and just for the fun of it

570
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:10,559
you know if he could spot here

571
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:18,630
uh with binoculars he sees this and i

572
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,320
know i realize that's a great distance

573
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:22,080
away

574
00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:24,960
but he sees a large individual with some

575
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:28,640
kind of a hump or something on the back

576
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:32,960
uh and it extremely big

577
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:36,480
and black and bulky

578
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:39,200
uh it wasn't moving too it would stop

579
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:40,720
and pause there's a bit of a i've been

580
00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:41,919
there several times

581
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,760
there's a bit of a bitter spot there in

582
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:45,440
between the oak brush

583
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:49,120
and probably for uh so when he saw that

584
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:52,480
he rushed to get the family camera

585
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:54,720
and i believe it was maybe even an

586
00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:56,240
old-fashioned eight millimeter or

587
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,400
sixteen millimeter

588
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,240
uh something like that nothing really

589
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:02,480
too state-of-the-art

590
00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:05,120
uh and took that picture this was like

591
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:06,799
what around 2000

592
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:09,120
oh this is a long time ago too it's

593
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:11,520
probably around 2001.

594
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:13,520
so the years are really flying now but

595
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:16,559
anyway so what he did

596
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:18,960
he got the family camera and shot the

597
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,760
footage

598
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:21,440
of the end because the individual wasn't

599
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:22,799
moving very quickly

600
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:26,480
it would pause stop so he shot it

601
00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:28,640
got it on camera from that distance

602
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,360
telephoto lens

603
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:33,360
and it covered i've been up there and

604
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:35,440
i'm you know like i said on the turf so

605
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:36,640
probably

606
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:41,600
something odd yards

607
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,870
90 something seconds because it wasn't

608
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:50,080
on the run

609
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:53,679
it was being rather casual and some kind

610
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,240
of something on the back

611
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:58,320
uh and he can't really make it out too

612
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:00,240
well but it could have been

613
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,320
if it was a bigfoot which we believe it

614
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:03,840
is now

615
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:06,559
it had a juvenile on his back and that

616
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:07,760
was the

617
00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:10,159
protrusion on the back and not a big bad

618
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:11,200
bat

619
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:13,200
but here's what it's interesting about

620
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:20,230
is that the the kid and his father and

621
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:20,640
about

622
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,120
went to that same location

623
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:29,200
and it's easy to spot you wouldn't get

624
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:30,320
you wouldn't get

625
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:33,520
thrown off because it's

626
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:36,640
very identifiable and easy to get to uh

627
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:38,159
when you hike up

628
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:41,440
only probably about a or less than a

629
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:45,600
thousand feet above the elevation of the

630
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:48,720
beginning of the the mountain you know

631
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:51,760
so anyway they arrived there 90 90

632
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:53,679
minutes later

633
00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:56,960
brian wow

634
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,679
yeah okay and the conditions were the

635
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:01,360
same in the last

636
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:04,000
no temperature change no rain no sleet

637
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:04,640
no snow

638
00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:07,360
no wind everything was the same

639
00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:08,880
condition

640
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:11,760
90 minutes later when this party of five

641
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,000
arrived on the location after he took

642
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:15,760
the footage

643
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:18,880
but here's what's weird

644
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:22,000
and they were on the right spot

645
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:25,039
a problem of not being on the exact

646
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:26,480
location

647
00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:29,760
of the uh individual in the footage

648
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:32,840
and covering that 70-something plus

649
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:34,080
yards

650
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:37,360
here's what's weird and i heard it from

651
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:39,200
most of the party there was

652
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:46,310
in that uh bear area there'd been a fire

653
00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:49,120
there years ago so that area was

654
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:52,159
fairly fair in between the uh

655
00:28:02,310 --> 00:27:57,120
uh oak brush coverage

656
00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:02,320
there were no traps whoa and not

657
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:03,279
anywhere even

658
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:06,399
close unbelief they ventured out several

659
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:09,840
you know like distances and 360.

660
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:12,080
in fact there was no tracks of any kind

661
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:13,760
deer fox

662
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:17,600
bio et cetera et cetera et cetera

663
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:19,840
now you would think in 90 minutes with

664
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:20,640
the conditions

665
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:23,520
being the same constant you would have

666
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:23,919
seen

667
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,640
tracks because it had to move that by

668
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:28,399
the time you put the camera on it till

669
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:30,559
it disappeared in oak brush

670
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:32,640
oh for sure there should there should be

671
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:34,000
something there

672
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:44,549
fascinating oh my gosh yeah

673
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:47,440
now that kind of leads me into another

674
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:49,039
another one that i needed to ask you

675
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:49,600
about

676
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:51,919
involving a fish farm i've got this in

677
00:29:03,190 --> 00:28:54,399
my notes but i don't have the location

678
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:05,590
what in the world happened up there it

679
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:08,320
was in the 80s correct

680
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:12,240
yes in a couple incidences in the 90s

681
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:19,430
what happened first in the 80s and then

682
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:21,039
i i don't know if i heard about what

683
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:22,480
happened in the 90s this sounds

684
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,760
i'm more intrigued now than ever

685
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,360
well i'll have to do it in bits and

686
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:29,760
pieces quickly as to not

687
00:29:33,909 --> 00:29:32,080
go into a lot of detail and stall this

688
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:33,919
out but uh

689
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:36,320
in the 80s the staff there and the owner

690
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:37,840
of the

691
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:41,039
cold water fish farm noticed uh some

692
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:42,559
fish out on the bank

693
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:45,760
half beating no bites out of them and

694
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:46,480
great big

695
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:50,000
human-like tracks in the raceways you

696
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:51,600
know where the moss is you're

697
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:53,600
a fisherman you know about all this

698
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:54,720
stuff

699
00:30:01,750 --> 00:29:58,320
and alongside the raceways with

700
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:01,760
some muddy areas and there was your

701
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:03,760
typical bigfoot threat you know a large

702
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:04,880
human

703
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,279
being prince this is the initial one

704
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:11,120
there are several other occasions here

705
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:13,679
but uh

706
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:16,880
that was what uh

707
00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:20,480
that was one of the first indications

708
00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:22,399
and there's been a lot of other reports

709
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:24,559
from other people in the area

710
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,039
of bigfoot coming down that particular

711
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:29,039
canyon coldwater camp did you not ever

712
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,840
make a

713
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:31,840
a visit to coldwater canyon it's the

714
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:33,760
next one to the south

715
00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:36,960
of the ogden the famous ogden divide it

716
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:41,830
vermont and up over to ogden valley

717
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:43,760
except near finds you and all that

718
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,279
did you not ever go there i went up

719
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:49,600
and investigated that after the first

720
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:51,760
time you told me about it and it was

721
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:53,279
beautiful that area is

722
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:59,110
yeah but there's been a lot of other

723
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,039
incidences and another bizarre

724
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,080
high strangeness one is

725
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:07,039
not far from there with a guy who raised

726
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:08,080
pigs

727
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:11,200
and i personally got to interview him uh

728
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:13,039
the owner of the fish farm took me to

729
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:13,440
him

730
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:17,039
and um this was a crazy one too

731
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:20,559
you want to get into weird ones yeah

732
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:25,200
uh so he's missing an occasional

733
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:28,960
pigs out of his pants you know and

734
00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:32,880
uh what guy catches the culprit

735
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:36,559
and his bigfoot himself palming one of

736
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:38,799
those

737
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:40,720
pigs like it was a football you know

738
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:42,640
like a basketball

739
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:46,960
and he's uh he's only about 30

740
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:49,519
to 40 feet away and he goes out i

741
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:50,480
believe a 30 out

742
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:53,760
thick and squares it up on him and they

743
00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:56,799
both froze in their trash

744
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:59,039
that was the call it wasn't a cougar you

745
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:01,200
know he's got a good look at the

746
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,230
and uh took off on a run

747
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:14,240
still holding the pig probably hearing

748
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:16,480
it like a football by then

749
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:19,279
i remember homie and left that there was

750
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:19,519
an

751
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:22,159
alfalfa field in the back you showed me

752
00:32:26,830 --> 00:32:23,279
the direction but

753
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:26,840
he didn't fire on it and it ran

754
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:30,080
and said it was as fast as a

755
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:36,149
and you know on two legs and then

756
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:38,399
shortly he could see where he hopped

757
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:40,640
over his small canal and then was

758
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:42,720
dodging in and out of the oak brush and

759
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:47,909
oh wait a minute i forgot to add one of

760
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:49,279
the part

761
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,760
and did he still have the yeah excuse me

762
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:52,960
i forgot to add an

763
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:55,519
integral part of what happened he

764
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:56,720
actually [\h__\h]

765
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:01,840
try to shoot it from 30 40 feet out

766
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:04,880
and guess what happened

767
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:08,240
what the

768
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:10,960
hand hit the center rim and but the

769
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:12,000
bullets did

770
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:16,399
not discharge got to be kidding me

771
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:18,399
no this is not the only one of these

772
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:19,679
i've been told

773
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:23,440
from personal from individuals i

774
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:25,519
i've got one more that i interviewed too

775
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:26,960
on this thing

776
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:29,679
the same type of strange i mean how do

777
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:30,320
you

778
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:34,159
this is this has nothing to do with

779
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:37,519
with uh what am i trying to say a

780
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:38,399
microwave

781
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:40,320
type of energy you're with this is

782
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:41,919
mechanical

783
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:45,200
right right he went up

784
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:47,360
shortly in that canyon where he figured

785
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,039
he went through the old pressure up that

786
00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:51,360
cold water

787
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:54,640
and he went up looking for more traction

788
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,000
evidence you think most people leave it

789
00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:00,320
they'd leave this alone

790
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:02,480
but he went up there and he discharged

791
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:06,559
that same bullet this

792
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:10,560
did not fire when he was gonna hit the

793
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:20,470
just didn't totally 100 percent

794
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:24,240
true how in the he double q

795
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:27,280
do you explain a phenomena like that

796
00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:30,079
impossible the coincidence is

797
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,839
mathematically

798
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:34,560
impossible i

799
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:36,159
i feel that the man i would have to

800
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:38,079
re-interview him if he's still alive

801
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:39,200
today that's been

802
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:42,399
quite a number of years ago uh but

803
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:45,200
uh at the time i must honestly tell you

804
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,079
i felt that

805
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:48,639
telling the truth and nothing but the

806
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:49,760
truth

807
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:53,599
yeah and uh the guy that led me to him

808
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:56,320
the owner of the he's a big game hunter

809
00:35:03,349 --> 00:34:59,440
now he he that's jay barker

810
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:03,359
that owns the fish farm ironically speak

811
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:06,160
who had a sighting of kubernetes with

812
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:08,880
another man and about six boy scouts

813
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:11,520
that made national news in the height

814
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:13,520
windows of eastern utah

815
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:16,640
in 1979 and i i know you

816
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:19,200
i know you're familiar with that

817
00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:20,320
somewhat are you not

818
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:23,119
i am i i am but it's such a good story

819
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:24,400
that it has to be

820
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:26,240
it has to be told especially i know that

821
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:28,079
you know probably 90

822
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:37,190
i interviewed most people and you know

823
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:39,680
it was yeah i remember i recall quite a

824
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:41,440
bit but if you

825
00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:43,839
you know that many years though uh you

826
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:44,960
do sometimes

827
00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:48,079
lose some of your recall

828
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:51,440
you know of the like for example as i

829
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:53,119
was just telling you that about the

830
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:56,800
thing i almost forgot left out the fact

831
00:36:03,030 --> 00:35:58,400
that he actually did

832
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:04,630
well that's why it's good to talk about

833
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,400
these things and get them down

834
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:08,800
because that's really where i mean

835
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:10,160
really you know

836
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:12,560
how do you explain that and then that

837
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:14,560
same bullet discharge

838
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,240
would you like to hear another quick one

839
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:18,480
similar to that oh yeah but let's go

840
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:19,359
into uh

841
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:22,160
the the 79 case a little bit can you

842
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,000
tell us a little bit more about that one

843
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:26,640
and then go into the next one

844
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,040
see i didn't even know about it 79 i

845
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:30,960
didn't even know about it was on the

846
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:32,000
news and

847
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:35,200
national news made a big hoop law

848
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:37,520
but i didn't actively get involved in

849
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:38,640
the

850
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:40,640
interviewing and going on location and

851
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:42,160
tracking and

852
00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:47,200
a whole bit until 1980 physically

853
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:49,040
you know when some sightings occurred

854
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:51,599
between where i live in ogden utah

855
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:53,920
and a couple little towns up there

856
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:55,359
you're probably you probably know where

857
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:56,640
south we were

858
00:37:01,910 --> 00:36:59,920
yeah when you landed sure out of weber

859
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:01,920
commencement has occurred up there in

860
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,320
february of 80 and that's when i

861
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:07,280
physically got involved in i to this day

862
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:08,880
i

863
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:49,119
so on

864
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:51,760
that that lit the fire in 79 i didn't

865
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:53,839
know about the cooper and basin

866
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,720
fighting and he'd win a mountain with

867
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,640
jay barker in the scout

868
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,560
uh and that made national news in the

869
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,800
day that was

870
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,960
basically they just uh we're on a hike

871
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:06,560
and we're on a ledge and looked down on

872
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:08,720
one of the lakes

873
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:10,160
there's three little lakes up there

874
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,280
behind us and they

875
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,880
basically thought they were seeing a

876
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:17,040
moose at first and saw this thing on two

877
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:18,400
legs

878
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:22,000
scurrying about so the kids rolled rocks

879
00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:26,710
side of the uh mountain there down

880
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:28,480
towards that locate

881
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:31,200
and yelled screamed at it and then

882
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:32,800
shortly it went outside

883
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:36,000
basically that was the the initial

884
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:40,320
79 sightings of jay barker

885
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:42,640
and then ironically this thing shows up

886
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:43,359
on his

887
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:46,160
he is which threw a lot of doubt for

888
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:48,240
some people but it doesn't apply

889
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:51,839
uh shows up on his property

890
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:54,960
a few short years later in north ogden

891
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:56,960
on the fish farm

892
00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:00,160
wow same kind of area really

893
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:02,720
i mean general area yeah by the way

894
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:03,760
daryl and i had

895
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:06,160
uh actually carol was so into that

896
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:07,920
location because

897
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:11,520
him and i actually backpacked into there

898
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:13,760
in the 90s for a couple of days so i

899
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:14,720
could

900
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:16,320
show him the you know he's so

901
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:18,720
enthusiastic it's kind of hard to

902
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:20,800
turn him down so we we actually

903
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:22,800
backpacked into that

904
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:26,480
that area i really wish that uh yeah he

905
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:28,320
put some serious miles

906
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:30,960
on with his walking sticks with the and

907
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:31,520
he was

908
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:38,480
um i had to cheer him out though on that

909
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:39,520
backpack

910
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:47,109
a button-up are you gonna announce your

911
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:47,599
your

912
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,680
presence miles away up

913
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:53,440
he was ready to sell the bigfoot

914
00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:57,040
insurance if he met

915
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:00,079
i said anything but that white

916
00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:03,200
shirt i could you know you can see you

917
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,560
coming miles away

918
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:06,880
here you know it reminds me of other

919
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:07,839
people who

920
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:13,109
yeah they go into the field dressed as

921
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:15,440
if they are at their day job

922
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:19,200
but um it is what it is the

923
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:21,920
you know the he was he was hardcore but

924
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,560
that whole

925
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:24,640
area had an explosion and i wanted to

926
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,079
kind of go up a little bit

927
00:40:30,069 --> 00:40:28,079
off of that area not too far off but

928
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:30,079
monte cristo and get into the caped

929
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:30,560
figures

930
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:33,599
oh several sightings up at monte cristo

931
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:36,960
can we talk about the caped figures yeah

932
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:38,400
that's where they said that that's where

933
00:40:41,829 --> 00:40:39,200
this other

934
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,839
bullet phenomena occurs oh let's get

935
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,119
into all of it if we can

936
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:45,920
yeah this one relates to the pig farmer

937
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:48,640
down below in the valley there by then

938
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:51,760
okay similar story let me let me rip

939
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:54,480
let me get let me tell you this one it's

940
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:56,960
because this will make an impression too

941
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,079
see how it relates to the story of uh

942
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:03,119
the pig farmer near the uh

943
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:04,640
fish farm that i just told you in the

944
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:07,680
phenomena of the bullet not the church

945
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,800
okay this was a couple this is 1979

946
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:14,079
and they're up there hunting i can't

947
00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:15,599
remember who's filtered here i believe

948
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:17,119
this is the elk

949
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,119
there's a famous location there called

950
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:20,960
mount mechanic

951
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:23,680
up there is monte cristo and a lot of

952
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,640
people know where

953
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:26,640
this one particular water hole is

954
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:28,400
because it's not too far off the main

955
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:30,480
road

956
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:33,040
and the man's name was larry darling and

957
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,950
and uh we're waiting one evening you

958
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:40,000
know

959
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,040
the evening hours

960
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:47,040
so they're not too far away waiting to

961
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:50,960
see what shows up with the water hole

962
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:54,800
and uh all of a sudden the

963
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:58,240
oh let's see what's the distance

964
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:01,440
well it wasn't very far 90 to 120 feet

965
00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:03,839
something like that if i recall which is

966
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:05,030
real close

967
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:06,400
[Music]

968
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:10,160
here's this hairy you know big tall

969
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:13,440
uh individual of flowing hair you know

970
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:15,040
the typical the physical

971
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:18,400
description of a bigfoot coming in the

972
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:20,880
direction of that little uh

973
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:25,200
water hole if you follow this

974
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:27,839
wow and it apparently wasn't aware of

975
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:28,560
them

976
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:31,920
ryan they were aware of it before it was

977
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:33,599
aware of them and they want to become

978
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,200
aware of them

979
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,680
he started distorting his facial you

980
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,119
know figure

981
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,240
and his teeth and uh

982
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:44,880
started that looked did you say did you

983
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:46,880
say he started snorting a little bit

984
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:49,440
yeah well yeah you know just kind of use

985
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:50,960
your imagination yeah

986
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:53,040
yeah yeah no that sounds very that falls

987
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,319
right into line with some other

988
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:56,880
yeah wait a minute she had the scope on

989
00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:00,079
because it was her turn to shoot the

990
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:02,240
and so she passes it down to larry and

991
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:03,200
says

992
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,000
cue that there's a moth that's a monster

993
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,839
or something to that effect i know that

994
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,200
sounds silly

995
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:13,280
that i remember not at all i think

996
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:15,119
that's what they told me

997
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:18,560
uh when i interviewed them and uh

998
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:21,760
so he went it was looks like it was

999
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:22,240
going to

1000
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:24,800
move in their direction quickly and

1001
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:26,319
believe me they didn't take down

1002
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:29,440
lawn to cover ground when you're faster

1003
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:29,920
than

1004
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:32,800
the swift as a race woods you know on

1005
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:33,599
two legs

1006
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:35,440
i mean that's swift and that even in

1007
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:37,760
that terrain all right now having said

1008
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:38,800
that

1009
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:41,280
he decided to shoot a warning shot over

1010
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:51,190
are you ready for this yeah yeah

1011
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:57,030
again either a misfire

1012
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:00,470
yeah but what are the chances

1013
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:03,599
that is physically mathematically

1014
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:06,839
and just basically impossible in in i

1015
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:08,240
mean have told me that

1016
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:11,280
uh including jay barker himself

1017
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:14,319
big time game hunter the the odds of

1018
00:44:17,790 --> 00:44:14,640
that

1019
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:17,800
are uh uh

1020
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:23,430
so but here's what else happened true

1021
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:24,400
story i'm not

1022
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:27,440
i'm not thinking i'm not a bs

1023
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:29,440
and a storyteller i'm telling you

1024
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:30,480
exactly

1025
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:32,160
is the interview went with these

1026
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:33,760
individuals mm-hmm

1027
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:36,560
i'm telling the truth oh i know you are

1028
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:38,560
i know you are yeah i know you know i

1029
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:40,480
am but it takes your audience picking up

1030
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:42,319
it's like a boy there's a story

1031
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:45,280
there's a storyteller if there was one

1032
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:48,480
okay so here's what happened

1033
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:51,760
they had bought while that thing was

1034
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,280
close by nearby they of all things that

1035
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:56,880
hunt elk in

1036
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:01,119
they had a brand new 79 subaru

1037
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:04,000
you remember their little team what a

1038
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:06,000
strange vehicle to go hunting

1039
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:09,119
you know right right well anyway while

1040
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:10,240
it was near

1041
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:13,040
they so they rushed panickedly to go get

1042
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:13,920
in that

1043
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:17,200
because it was close by to get the hell

1044
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:19,599
out of there

1045
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:23,119
and uh the thing wouldn't start

1046
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:24,880
it wasn't that that you know they were

1047
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:26,240
fiddling around so again

1048
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:29,440
similar to the misfire

1049
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:32,000
okay this is electromagnetic here now

1050
00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:34,400
that the rifle as you know is mechanic

1051
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:38,079
how do you apply this to a mechanical

1052
00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:41,760
but this is uh the electromagnetic is

1053
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:43,680
the way i was looking

1054
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,800
the subaru wouldn't start as long as

1055
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:48,000
this thing was cool

1056
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,760
but when i guess it backed off and it

1057
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:51,680
was out of sight

1058
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:54,640
the thing started up and they rushed

1059
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:55,359
down the

1060
00:46:02,069 --> 00:45:58,960
highway 39 there that my crystal

1061
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:02,079
you know uh shaken

1062
00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:05,680
mm-hmm and uh

1063
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:08,640
it's not remarkable but shaken and so

1064
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:12,079
they go down about a mile or so

1065
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:15,680
get out of the vehicle and

1066
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:19,680
and again true story uh ryan

1067
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:22,560
the bullet just the bullet fires the

1068
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:24,400
same bullet

1069
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,640
you're kidding me uh hail do you

1070
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:30,960
so is there some kind of supernatural

1071
00:46:34,829 --> 00:46:33,040
thing going on here

1072
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,839
in the mecha i could see the

1073
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:36,480
electromagnetic stuff

1074
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:38,720
with vehicles you're familiar with all

1075
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:39,599
those type of

1076
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:42,560
oh yeah stories cars and equipment

1077
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:44,880
machinery and so on

1078
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:46,960
but this is my cat so there's another

1079
00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:49,359
one very similar

1080
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:51,280
isn't this interesting when you get into

1081
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:52,640
this it is so weird

1082
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:56,640
it is very similar to what happened down

1083
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:00,560
uh to the uh peterson was the man's name

1084
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:04,079
the pig farmer uh that jay barker itself

1085
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:05,599
took me to to go

1086
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:08,560
to interview and speak same kind of uh

1087
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:10,560
situation there so

1088
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:13,359
there's food for thought for the serious

1089
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:16,720
individual that's looking at this

1090
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:22,470
and that that area you said there's a

1091
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:23,520
variety

1092
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:27,119
of other sightings very close by

1093
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:30,720
and oh yes plenty of them one man

1094
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:35,760
out here in roy utah runs a tire

1095
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:39,040
another big game hunter galore

1096
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:42,450
taylor carl carl taylor

1097
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:43,839
[Music]

1098
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:46,880
um good guy

1099
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:50,000
he uh watched one for over

1100
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:53,359
well over a thousand feet from the time

1101
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:54,720
he picked it up

1102
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:57,920
up in monte cristo

1103
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:00,800
and uh where he was at was a place

1104
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:03,040
called piss that flat

1105
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:06,079
oh great great

1106
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:09,520
name great name yeah yeah well anyway

1107
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:09,920
he's

1108
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:13,280
higher level

1109
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:16,480
on a small overhang clip

1110
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:19,680
and it threat when it was walking

1111
00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:22,720
it was directly right below him and

1112
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:24,480
never really

1113
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:26,720
and you think of them as being extra

1114
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,640
sensory perceptive

1115
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:31,200
and being able to be you know pick up on

1116
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:33,040
anything in their environment

1117
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:35,680
well this walked right by you know of

1118
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:36,559
course he had the

1119
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:40,319
he was up looking down uh somewhat

1120
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:43,119
as you can describe to me and then i and

1121
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:43,760
then it can

1122
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:46,000
he watched it it went past him and i

1123
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,319
said i stood up there in this business

1124
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:50,640
at the interview i said how much further

1125
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:52,640
did you watch that

1126
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:56,079
did you watch the that bigfoot when you

1127
00:49:01,750 --> 00:48:59,680
when it was directly below you

1128
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,760
and so he gave me a landmark there right

1129
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,520
here in the town on the main street

1130
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,119
highway of roy

1131
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:07,920
good hell where he pointed where he

1132
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:08,880
finally lost

1133
00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:12,720
eyesight come to visual with him my hail

1134
00:49:16,069 --> 00:49:15,520
it was like another thousand feet away

1135
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:16,079
right

1136
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:20,400
a

1137
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:50,960
weird one could we go in

1138
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:54,800
that case we're really dealing with the

1139
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:57,440
weird cases on this podcast oh yeah just

1140
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:00,400
nothing but mind blowers here

1141
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:03,599
oh yeah that's a weird one that yep and

1142
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:04,079
but

1143
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:06,559
this one i'm we got time to tell it you

1144
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:08,240
bet you bet

1145
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:10,880
yeah uh there's a couple more similar to

1146
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:12,319
it and there

1147
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:15,200
as the three that i know of i've never

1148
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:15,599
heard

1149
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:19,040
anything else that even resembled

1150
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:22,160
other than the three inches

1151
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:24,960
through the years uh i mean this isn't

1152
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:26,079
like a

1153
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:29,119
like these are rare because you i just

1154
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:32,400
i've only heard three of these and i've

1155
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:34,160
covered a lot of ground with

1156
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:36,960
uh folks through the years essentially

1157
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:40,160
let me get into it

1158
00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:43,599
uh one cowboy guy i knew

1159
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,079
in fact i rented uh my pasture to a

1160
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:48,400
bunch years ago

1161
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:51,599
but at any rate he's up in the monte

1162
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:53,599
cristo

1163
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:56,960
and he sees um

1164
00:51:01,510 --> 00:50:59,440
where they cut the trees there for fire

1165
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:01,520
fireline

1166
00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:03,440
i can't remember the distance without

1167
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:05,599
referring and i probably lost my notes

1168
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,040
and information on some

1169
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:09,599
a lot of these fights now but anyway so

1170
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:11,920
i can't remember the exact distance

1171
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:14,480
to be honest with you but he sees three

1172
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:16,480
individuals

1173
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:18,160
you know that's the middle of nowhere up

1174
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:20,880
there i mean this is weird so it seems

1175
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:23,680
about he was close enough to see that

1176
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:26,160
they were extremely tall

1177
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:29,599
about seven feet tall

1178
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:33,119
plus maybe huge then

1179
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:35,040
yeah but here's the thought this

1180
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:36,400
probably has nothing this

1181
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:39,119
has probably zero to do with bigfoot

1182
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:40,079
other than the

1183
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:44,000
uh high strangeness paranormal aspect of

1184
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:51,030
is that they are dressed in macro

1185
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:54,559
when you say call now i don't think they

1186
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:56,079
were mortal

1187
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:58,160
personally and i'll tell you why later

1188
00:52:02,829 --> 00:52:00,079
on based on this

1189
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:02,839
and so he sees them and one of them has

1190
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:08,710
just one of them so just one of them had

1191
00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:10,480
a staff

1192
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,599
yes and the two other with them and he

1193
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:15,200
couldn't see it you know because of the

1194
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:18,319
hoods he couldn't see any facial

1195
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:22,559
yeah the hell out of him and he uh

1196
00:52:25,589 --> 00:52:24,559
he didn't deserve too long but again i

1197
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:25,599
don't recall

1198
00:52:31,109 --> 00:52:29,119
the exact this daytime

1199
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:31,119
oh this was a date this was a daytime

1200
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:32,880
sighting see i didn't know

1201
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:35,599
but i don't recall the i wish i could

1202
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:36,400
honestly

1203
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:42,000
say uh exactly what

1204
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:43,839
it's unclear to me in memory just

1205
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:46,720
exactly how close he was

1206
00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:49,040
right right now was this was this was an

1207
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:51,599
instance positively make those

1208
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:54,800
physical uh uh

1209
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,440
you mentioned uh you didn't think that

1210
00:53:02,870 --> 00:52:59,200
they were living beings or

1211
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:02,880
alive really well no mortals

1212
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:05,359
mortal i'm sorry yeah you have to be

1213
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:08,880
seven foot tall to belong to a cult

1214
00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:11,440
right now there is there is a monastery

1215
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:13,119
you've probably been to that monastery

1216
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:14,400
up in august

1217
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:16,240
i've stayed weeks at that place yeah i

1218
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:17,920
used to love it it's a shame that it's

1219
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:19,040
no longer

1220
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:22,480
not like a bunch of monks went on a wall

1221
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:25,119
seven foot tall monks that decided to

1222
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:28,400
split the scene at the monastery and

1223
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:30,720
still you know go out in the nature

1224
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:32,319
seven feet tall and you know

1225
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:35,119
monk costume you know that's similar to

1226
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:36,240
that right

1227
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:39,280
so weird so that doesn't make any sense

1228
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:40,800
you can rule that out

1229
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:44,640
even though as the crow flies miles away

1230
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:47,200
a few short miles away there is that

1231
00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:48,079
monastery

1232
00:54:06,390 --> 00:53:53,990
but the chances are three seven foot

1233
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:09,750
so there's one now the second one the

1234
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:11,680
first one i ever heard was from a guy

1235
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:15,440
that worked in the post office in murray

1236
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:17,280
and i remember going down there i was so

1237
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,200
interested as i went down to

1238
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:21,119
the workplace and waited he went on

1239
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:22,559
lunch so i could

1240
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,000
speak to him about it in the flesh yeah

1241
00:54:31,589 --> 00:54:28,319
see if he if i could pick up on the

1242
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:31,599
truthfulness of the statement

1243
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:33,280
and uh he was up fishing i can't

1244
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:35,440
remember the exact location somewhere in

1245
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:38,880
utah high country here and he uh

1246
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:42,079
he uh got disoriented and had to spend

1247
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:42,720
the night

1248
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,240
uh sleeping uh

1249
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:48,720
in a grove of uh clerkiness street

1250
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:50,400
assembly i don't even remember the exact

1251
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,680
location on this

1252
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:53,520
you know a lot of these have been years

1253
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:56,240
ago for crying out loud

1254
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:58,400
so but anyway when he wakes up in the

1255
00:55:02,230 --> 00:54:59,920
early morning hours you know

1256
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:02,240
he's up against the tree trying to keep

1257
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:03,040
warm

1258
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:07,200
because he got momentarily lost

1259
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:10,319
he sees three individuals

1260
00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:12,319
see the parallel what i'm about to tell

1261
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:14,799
you he sees three individuals that are

1262
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:15,200
about

1263
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:18,880
seven feet tall in robes and one with a

1264
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:21,839
staff

1265
00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:25,440
completely far away location than the

1266
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:26,319
monte cristo

1267
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,599
area that i just told in the mountainous

1268
00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:31,920
country

1269
00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:35,200
now what's up with this stuff but at the

1270
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:37,359
time when he saw him he thought

1271
00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:39,760
he was so glad to see some kind of human

1272
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:40,400
movement

1273
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,880
but so he thought he was yelling and

1274
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:44,640
screaming from his position

1275
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:46,880
hey i'm right here i'm here i'm here you

1276
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:48,559
know like he's been proud

1277
00:55:55,030 --> 00:55:51,839
and he was walked right

1278
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:55,040
right why not and they never looked up

1279
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:58,000
broke stride or a damn thing and

1280
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:58,720
eventually

1281
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:01,200
walked into another grove and i don't

1282
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:03,760
remember how the distance again

1283
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:05,280
and he never saw him again and they

1284
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:06,799
never responded

1285
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:08,960
didn't stop you know he's yelling and

1286
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:10,799
screaming that you know like here i am

1287
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:11,760
you know like you know

1288
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:14,559
oh good people i'm gonna be i'm gonna be

1289
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:16,079
saved i'm gonna be

1290
00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:18,960
led back from the right trail to

1291
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:21,280
civilization here

1292
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:23,520
they didn't even stop they had hoods on

1293
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:25,680
he couldn't see any facial things

1294
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:28,079
again the staff three of them seven feet

1295
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:29,680
tall

1296
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,720
now what's up with this stuff that one

1297
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:34,880
more

1298
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:40,240
yeah let's do it or monte cristo again

1299
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:44,480
a guy i got the interview i found out

1300
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,079
about interview

1301
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:48,720
as a small japanese truck back in those

1302
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:49,680
days

1303
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:53,119
hating you know you you've owned your

1304
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:54,880
share of japanese trucks but yours have

1305
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:56,880
been nice when

1306
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:00,240
anyway he's got uh a couple of

1307
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:03,040
some people they're just out driving

1308
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:04,720
around late at night

1309
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:07,920
adventurizing you know and what and

1310
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:10,240
uh he's got a guy in the back that can't

1311
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:12,079
fit everybody in those little caps so

1312
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:13,040
one of the guys

1313
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:16,000
in the back of the i'll call it the

1314
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:17,280
toyota

1315
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:20,720
are eight each type and they're going up

1316
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:21,680
late at night

1317
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:23,200
up through the winding road they're on

1318
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:25,599
highway 39 monte cristo

1319
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:27,440
goes up in that country and if you kept

1320
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:30,319
going and you go into wyoming you know

1321
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:33,839
but at any rate this time there's only

1322
00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:36,079
one of them

1323
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:39,680
of the tall seven-foot road individuals

1324
00:57:44,309 --> 00:57:41,040
and i can't remember if this one

1325
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:44,319
individual had a staff or not

1326
00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:47,359
but again here's the same

1327
00:57:50,630 --> 00:57:49,119
you know here's the same description

1328
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:50,640
brian

1329
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:54,160
and uh when he saw it was like

1330
00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:56,880
standing almost in the center of the

1331
00:58:03,109 --> 00:57:59,200
two-lane road winding through

1332
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:03,119
the mountainous terrain there

1333
00:58:06,390 --> 00:58:05,359
and he had a a really hearing feeling

1334
00:58:09,430 --> 00:58:06,400
like this thing was

1335
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:09,440
evil oh really

1336
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:12,880
real energy in fact he had to

1337
00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:16,960
kind of drive around it to something

1338
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:25,750
that's really freaky here in the back

1339
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:28,240
shot when because he picked up speed and

1340
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:30,319
accelerated when they

1341
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:33,599
and the kid in the back said he felt

1342
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:35,440
whatever this thing he felt some kind of

1343
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:36,880
work that this thing

1344
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:39,119
if it wanted to have the power and

1345
00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:40,480
capability

1346
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:42,559
that yanked him right out of the back of

1347
00:58:48,829 --> 00:58:44,720
that truck

1348
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:48,839
and a perceived evil to boot

1349
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,839
yeah now there's three of those are the

1350
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:53,040
only

1351
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:57,200
three of that nature in all these years

1352
00:59:02,309 --> 00:58:58,799
i've heard

1353
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:02,319
that's so fascinating and comparison to

1354
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:04,640
the big precision

1355
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,920
you know what uh hundreds of bigfoot

1356
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:09,040
related sightings

1357
00:59:14,789 --> 00:59:12,160
or dozens dozens and dozens and dozens

1358
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:14,799
and thousands and dozens and more you

1359
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:15,599
know in that

1360
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:18,319
you know you're talking you know in a

1361
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:19,599
40-year period

1362
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:22,960
yeah 40 years and

1363
00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:29,270
so nobody knows nobody's been able to

1364
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:30,079
give me any

1365
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:33,119
you know official feedback

1366
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:36,000
other than but just between you and me

1367
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:39,440
and uh some of your listeners uh

1368
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:42,400
wow what's up with this phenomenon yeah

1369
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:42,880
yeah

1370
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:46,319
and that area is explosively active

1371
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:48,319
man i wish we could talk about it all

1372
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:50,480
day and we need to talk again soon

1373
00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:52,640
let's wrap it up with one if you have

1374
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:54,079
and it doesn't have to be bigfoot

1375
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:55,680
related if you don't want it to be

1376
01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:59,280
mr layton but whatever one last one

1377
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:01,280
ryan go ahead i'm going to let you take

1378
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:04,319
it away whatever you think is uh most

1379
01:00:07,359 --> 01:00:11,190
one you want to mention

1380
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:14,870
well there's several of them really

1381
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:17,440
let's do it let's i would say that the i

1382
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:19,040
would say the mother of all

1383
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:22,319
sides was actually a ufo site

1384
01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:25,440
i like it i like it

1385
01:00:29,910 --> 01:00:27,680
okay i'll get your running out of time

1386
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:29,920
i'll try to go through this real quickly

1387
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:31,680
no we can stretch it out a bit let's

1388
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:34,480
let's do it let's do it right yeah

1389
01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:39,520
this goes back to uh about 1966

1390
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:43,760
in northern utah yeah near the final

1391
01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:46,960
rocket booster plant

1392
01:00:50,069 --> 01:00:48,559
have you ever been out in that country

1393
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:50,079
up on the northern i've

1394
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:53,760
been out there i used to know the uh

1395
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:55,680
hr person out there and i saw some of

1396
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:57,280
the rocket testing out there and it was

1397
01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:58,640
just fascinating

1398
01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:00,160
yeah so yeah i've been out there it's

1399
01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:01,680
crazy pretty neat

1400
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:05,920
this is far from the actual plant and

1401
01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:10,000
yes this involved uh two young people

1402
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:12,799
who are dry farmers last name sorenson

1403
01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:14,240
out of logan utah

1404
01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:16,079
that they owned a lot of farmland up

1405
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:17,520
there

1406
01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:20,799
and yes they were young men uh

1407
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:24,000
about 12 13 and 16

1408
01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:32,390
and uh one particular night they

1409
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:34,880
you know as farmers do folks they have

1410
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:35,920
to irrigate

1411
01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:39,920
uh in the wee hours the morning

1412
01:01:43,470 --> 01:01:41,760
so this is the wee hours of the morning

1413
01:01:46,789 --> 01:01:43,480
on one particular night

1414
01:01:49,349 --> 01:01:46,799
1966. you know both of them are in their

1415
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:49,359
60s today

1416
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:52,480
uh however uh all of a sudden hello this

1417
01:01:56,069 --> 01:01:54,319
is amazing i know this

1418
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:56,079
i know that i know they're telling the

1419
01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:57,440
truth they have

1420
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:00,720
this guy runs a major insurance

1421
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:03,920
uh operation right yeah

1422
01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:06,480
well easy but which is a no-no career

1423
01:02:09,670 --> 01:02:07,119
killer

1424
01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:09,680
he's even shared this story with his

1425
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:10,799
some of his fellow

1426
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:13,920
insurance salesmen

1427
01:02:17,109 --> 01:02:15,359
if they didn't you know could be a

1428
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:17,119
career killer but anyway here's

1429
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:18,640
here's what happened let's get to the

1430
01:02:23,029 --> 01:02:21,440
good part get to the action

1431
01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:23,039
so though they're up irrigating in the

1432
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:25,520
wee hours of the morning

1433
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:27,920
but all of a sudden oh this is a good

1434
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:28,799
one

1435
01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:32,319
the sky blocks out right over the top of

1436
01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:34,160
they can't see nothing i mean all of a

1437
01:02:39,710 --> 01:02:36,799
sudden there's an object i should say

1438
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:39,720
and it covers everything and it's

1439
01:02:46,829 --> 01:02:42,240
approximately

1440
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:46,839
a minimum of 150 to 250 feet directly

1441
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:53,510
and uh it's got concave and convex

1442
01:03:03,589 --> 01:02:59,430
but you can't see the sky and their

1443
01:03:05,589 --> 01:03:03,599
first initial reaction was instinctive

1444
01:03:07,990 --> 01:03:05,599
they didn't know of course in those days

1445
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:08,000
you're not thinking mothership

1446
01:03:11,829 --> 01:03:10,079
they didn't know why i mean they

1447
01:03:14,829 --> 01:03:11,839
panicked and they both dove

1448
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:14,839
into the uh alfalfa that they were

1449
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:17,520
watering

1450
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:19,760
into the dirt with their faces you know

1451
01:03:25,029 --> 01:03:22,480
further down that's being caused

1452
01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:25,039
the startling effect of something that

1453
01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:25,599
uh

1454
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:29,200
colossal right over your head

1455
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:30,640
they thought they were thought to be

1456
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:33,280
crushed of course

1457
01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:36,000
by whatever the flip this thing was you

1458
01:03:39,589 --> 01:03:37,440
know

1459
01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:39,599
oh this wasn't it this is the mother of

1460
01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:41,200
all my interviews yeah

1461
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:45,680
and i've had some good ones and so

1462
01:03:50,470 --> 01:03:47,599
that was the distance overhead it made

1463
01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:53,990
and probably took uh as long as

1464
01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:56,160
it must have been in idle it must have

1465
01:04:02,309 --> 01:03:59,039
been encouraged because it took

1466
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:02,319
he figures 20 to 30 minutes

1467
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:11,270
unbelievable and um let me think

1468
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:15,920
he uh oh and periodically they would

1469
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:18,880
look up from a prone position

1470
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:20,160
because they're still down on their

1471
01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:22,880
bellies most of the time in fact not all

1472
01:04:25,910 --> 01:04:24,880
probably all of it thinking that this

1473
01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:25,920
thing if it sat

1474
01:04:29,109 --> 01:04:28,480
down it's going to crush it which would

1475
01:04:32,230 --> 01:04:29,119
be an

1476
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:32,240
honest natural response an answer you

1477
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:33,680
would be horrified to see that

1478
01:04:38,069 --> 01:04:35,760
of course you would yeah no pressure no

1479
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:38,079
sound no noise

1480
01:04:43,990 --> 01:04:41,680
and then when it finally passed overhead

1481
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:44,000
and they could see the sky again it was

1482
01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:46,160
heading in a southerly direction

1483
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:48,160
this is out in howell valley a very

1484
01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:49,440
remote area

1485
01:04:59,029 --> 01:04:52,079
matter of fact back in college days uh

1486
01:05:02,309 --> 01:05:00,549
now there's not a lot out there from

1487
01:05:04,230 --> 01:05:02,319
what i remember well there's nothing out

1488
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:04,240
there but dry farms and stuff

1489
01:05:08,230 --> 01:05:06,880
probably still the same today i haven't

1490
01:05:09,750 --> 01:05:08,240
been up there for years

1491
01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:09,760
that's that's kind of why they do the

1492
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:12,160
testing out there

1493
01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:14,720
well the the booster plant is probably

1494
01:05:19,670 --> 01:05:17,280
from where this big place

1495
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:19,680
uh i'm gonna say a minimum of three to

1496
01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:22,319
six miles down

1497
01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:26,000
oh man away so it's relatively close

1498
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:28,319
oh man it's really close that's really

1499
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:30,640
close a lot closer than i thought

1500
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:32,799
well anyway being a country boy and all

1501
01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:33,920
and everything like that

1502
01:05:38,069 --> 01:05:36,799
knowing the turf the terrain the family

1503
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:38,079
he can estimate

1504
01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:43,359
the size of this thing here here's the

1505
01:05:50,309 --> 01:05:47,680
here's the uh surprise right here

1506
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:50,319
based on the landmarks now this thing

1507
01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:51,599
was at least a

1508
01:05:59,349 --> 01:05:55,200
mile if not possibly a

1509
01:06:02,470 --> 01:05:59,359
mile and a half in length

1510
01:06:06,549 --> 01:06:02,480
an absolutely huge craft

1511
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:06,559
and it went in the direction

1512
01:06:12,870 --> 01:06:09,920
of the rocket booster cycle

1513
01:06:13,190 --> 01:06:12,880
in fact right he estimates right where

1514
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:13,200
it

1515
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:16,240
shot up into the sky

1516
01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:18,720
like a golden streak when it was that

1517
01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:20,319
far away from

1518
01:06:25,829 --> 01:06:22,160
from where it was when it went past

1519
01:06:29,670 --> 01:06:25,839
overhead with feminist system

1520
01:06:33,670 --> 01:06:29,680
so that particular night 1966

1521
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:33,680
you know damn well the security there

1522
01:06:37,109 --> 01:06:35,920
at the rocket booster plant had to have

1523
01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:37,119
seen this

1524
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:40,319
up close and personal they had some

1525
01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:42,160
something had to have been seen so the

1526
01:06:47,510 --> 01:06:44,000
joke is is that

1527
01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:47,520
they were probably taking a tour

1528
01:06:50,710 --> 01:06:49,599
you know oh and here's what the humans

1529
01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:50,720
are doing with their

1530
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:53,200
their space here's one of them well

1531
01:06:56,789 --> 01:06:54,240
there are

1532
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:56,799
a little bit of humor well it kind of is

1533
01:07:01,349 --> 01:06:58,640
interesting because there's a history a

1534
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:01,359
long history of ufos

1535
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:04,000
engaging with nuclear plants and

1536
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:04,880
military

1537
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:08,319
facilities so that falls into line

1538
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:11,760
oh yes of course but this comes from uh

1539
01:07:18,069 --> 01:07:14,960
some very honest people

1540
01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:18,079
and uh you know

1541
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:21,039
even though it's 66 no drugs involved no

1542
01:07:25,510 --> 01:07:22,240
alcohol none of

1543
01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:25,520
none of that horse play more upright

1544
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:29,359
straight truth speaking

1545
01:07:32,789 --> 01:07:31,280
folks even though they were young at the

1546
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:32,799
time like i said

1547
01:07:38,549 --> 01:07:35,920
telling you the facts based on it you

1548
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:38,559
remember everything i said

1549
01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:41,280
so here's here's the thing here's the

1550
01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:43,760
here's the impact

1551
01:07:50,710 --> 01:07:48,400
wow who are these beans

1552
01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:50,720
you know yeah i mean really i mean and

1553
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:54,000
this isn't one of a kind there have been

1554
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:57,200
you know mild [\h__\h] long vehicles

1555
01:08:03,829 --> 01:08:00,720
spotted numerous times around the planet

1556
01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:03,839
i'm gonna divulge a little do you

1557
01:08:07,829 --> 01:08:05,839
this is one that i think going back to

1558
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:07,839
daryl how strange

1559
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:11,280
but this is like the daryl cast the um

1560
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:13,520
did you ever or you may have been

1561
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:14,720
involved i don't know

1562
01:08:18,229 --> 01:08:17,040
and i think ron johnson might have also

1563
01:08:19,749 --> 01:08:18,239
been involved i can't remember the

1564
01:08:21,030 --> 01:08:19,759
characters and their players that were

1565
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:21,040
telling the story

1566
01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:27,430
there's so many of them there was one

1567
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:28,960
there was one that involved some

1568
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:32,400
frog people type aliens like a farmer

1569
01:08:36,829 --> 01:08:33,520
saw

1570
01:08:37,990 --> 01:08:36,839
a craft of some sort land near a river i

1571
01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:38,000
believe

1572
01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:40,799
and these things that he described as

1573
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:42,880
frog-like

1574
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:45,279
came out and for lack of a better word

1575
01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:47,120
took some buckets out to the river or

1576
01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:47,839
grabbed some

1577
01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:50,080
sheep it was a crazy story do you

1578
01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:51,520
remember that story

1579
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:53,600
that doesn't ring a bill at all to me

1580
01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:55,279
i've got to hit the archives and dig

1581
01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:56,400
that one up

1582
01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:58,960
is that a u-car one it was a utah one

1583
01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,000
and it was i think

1584
01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:01,920
i think that's a ron story because if

1585
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:03,440
i'm not mistaken it was down in the

1586
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:04,480
price area

1587
01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:07,359
or book cliffs or somewhere around i

1588
01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:08,719
couldn't even add to that

1589
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:11,279
right now i don't i got one more

1590
01:09:14,309 --> 01:09:12,960
equipment for you that's a good one

1591
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:14,319
let's do it

1592
01:09:21,030 --> 01:09:17,199
well i stood actually on the exact spot

1593
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:24,630
yeah let's do that okay here's how this

1594
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:26,480
came about

1595
01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:29,040
i stood on that spot years after the

1596
01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:30,080
fact i

1597
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:32,719
didn't know i knew nothing of it it

1598
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:34,080
occurred in the spring

1599
01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:37,279
of 1972. up in

1600
01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:39,759
woodland utah i know you're familiar

1601
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:40,960
with the

1602
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:42,480
countryside because you're a great

1603
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:44,080
observer and a traveler

1604
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:46,799
i love you as you know near family on

1605
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:49,040
the way up the wolf creek

1606
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:53,199
you know you know the turf yes sir

1607
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:54,960
well this occurred in woodland in the

1608
01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:58,159
spring of 72.

1609
01:10:02,070 --> 01:10:00,719
and this occurred in a uh on a remote

1610
01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:02,080
lane there

1611
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:06,080
in a pasture of a of a dairy farm

1612
01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:09,199
mind you and

1613
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:11,360
they were up at that hour because the

1614
01:10:17,110 --> 01:10:12,560
boys had to get up

1615
01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:17,120
or to do the milking and uh the mother

1616
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:19,600
the boys and the father

1617
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:21,280
and maybe the young sisters all

1618
01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:22,960
witnessed it

1619
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:25,840
but 180 yards out from the kitchen

1620
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:26,560
window

1621
01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:29,040
that morning was what they all thought

1622
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:30,640
initially was a big

1623
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:34,560
motor home out in the pasture

1624
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:36,320
but to get that motorhome out in the

1625
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:38,560
pasture you would have to bust down say

1626
01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:39,760
a series of

1627
01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:43,199
three four or five fence levels

1628
01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:45,440
you know to get that motorhome in that

1629
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:46,960
location

1630
01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:49,600
right well it wasn't a motorhome of

1631
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:50,400
course

1632
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:53,040
but all the the milk cows were as far

1633
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:56,880
away from this object as possible

1634
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:59,520
in the in the uh pastures and in the

1635
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:01,199
farm there

1636
01:11:07,910 --> 01:11:04,480
it's as if they knew something was

1637
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:07,920
rotten in denmark well anyway

1638
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:11,440
uh so they noticed this thing going up

1639
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:13,280
and that there were cottonwood trees

1640
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:15,280
nearby

1641
01:11:19,110 --> 01:11:17,040
and he was noticing this thing was

1642
01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:19,120
riding up and down

1643
01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:21,280
and those caught with trees were saying

1644
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:24,480
70 80 90 100 feet tall

1645
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:28,159
at least and i don't know too many motor

1646
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:31,120
homes that are capable of doing that

1647
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:33,760
i i wish i did know one of the one of

1648
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:35,840
the brothers

1649
01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:39,440
and he's fifth deceased i know this from

1650
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:41,280
the mother there

1651
01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:43,760
and i've stopped him a few times since

1652
01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:44,320
this

1653
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:49,040
uh but i didn't know about it until 1988

1654
01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:52,800
right you know with his uh what 16 years

1655
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:54,320
later right right

1656
01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:57,520
right and what i found about it i asked

1657
01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:59,120
if i could come out and speak to the

1658
01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:00,000
family

1659
01:12:06,550 --> 01:12:02,960
yeah come you're welcome come on up so i

1660
01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:06,560
went out on location and heard it all

1661
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:09,520
and one of the sons who dared to get

1662
01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:11,600
close to this

1663
01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:15,280
object it was a uh and unfortunately

1664
01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:15,920
that

1665
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:18,239
son had been murdered through the years

1666
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:19,360
he told me

1667
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:28,470
afterwards so he's not here available to

1668
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:30,400
tell his eyewitness account

1669
01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:32,719
but he can't he went through the fence

1670
01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:34,960
line to the south and came up that way

1671
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:37,040
to get near this object to get a good

1672
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:38,640
look at it

1673
01:12:48,830 --> 01:12:48,070
and it had a series of windows and he

1674
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:48,840
could see

1675
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:52,159
beams moving in and out you know the

1676
01:12:55,669 --> 01:12:52,800
silhouette

1677
01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:55,679
no way through through the portholes

1678
01:12:58,709 --> 01:12:56,960
through the portholes

1679
01:12:59,990 --> 01:12:58,719
so he was he could see beings through

1680
01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:00,000
the portholes

1681
01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:04,719
yeah through the window it had windows

1682
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:07,920
this shaped uh

1683
01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:09,679
i don't remember the dimensions but i'm

1684
01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:11,280
going to say at least

1685
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:15,840
minimum of the 60 90 120 feet plus

1686
01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:18,320
is what i i don't know about the exact

1687
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:19,440
but i'm just gonna

1688
01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:23,520
figure maybe even bigger well anyway

1689
01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:26,880
um that's what he

1690
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:30,239
saw close at around

1691
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:32,719
four a.m in the morning that particular

1692
01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:40,790
that is crazy and so when i'm there in

1693
01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:42,960
88 the fact i went up there with mildred

1694
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:45,679
beasley did you ever meet her

1695
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:47,440
no i don't believe i did i think i

1696
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:49,520
talked on the phone once with her

1697
01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:52,239
i picked mildred up with me that day it

1698
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,520
was snowing

1699
01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:56,000
march first night when i found out about

1700
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:58,400
this from one of their cousins

1701
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:00,080
and then i got on the phone and we

1702
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:02,560
discussed and i said i'm coming up

1703
01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:04,880
yes you're welcome come on so i grabbed

1704
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:07,840
mildred beasley that day

1705
01:14:12,830 --> 01:14:10,480
on march 1st kind of a snowy day up

1706
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:12,840
there on woodland

1707
01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:16,000
1988 she stayed behind with the lady

1708
01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:16,640
that

1709
01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:18,719
and i walked out there she told me

1710
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:24,630
it was caught with trees if you were

1711
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:27,040
there he probably ground some

1712
01:14:33,910 --> 01:14:30,640
1972 oh by the way they said

1713
01:14:35,830 --> 01:14:33,920
they went out the next day in 72 and

1714
01:14:38,470 --> 01:14:35,840
it's kind of a damp area because there's

1715
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:38,480
small creeks and springs that kind of

1716
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:38,880
makes

1717
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:42,400
you know the moss and it was bone dry

1718
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:45,600
no kidding yeah yeah don't dry where it

1719
01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:46,320
had been

1720
01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:49,280
okay did it well anyway it was 88 so

1721
01:14:56,229 --> 01:14:51,280
there i go walk it out

1722
01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:56,239
to where this x marks the spot

1723
01:15:01,590 --> 01:14:59,840
uh of course i don't see anything that

1724
01:15:03,750 --> 01:15:01,600
would indicate you know that many years

1725
01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:03,760
later that such an event is played

1726
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:06,719
but i guess my claim is uh based on the

1727
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:07,679
story

1728
01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:11,120
and if it's truthful and i have

1729
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:14,159
i have next to zero doubt that it's just

1730
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:16,400
that there's that it's a complete

1731
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:18,000
truthful statement

1732
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:20,000
google interview i think these people

1733
01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:21,360
are too pure and good of

1734
01:15:25,110 --> 01:15:24,320
art to make this you know type of thing

1735
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:25,120
up

1736
01:15:31,350 --> 01:15:28,320
right yeah and uh and it all had it all

1737
01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:31,360
it all squares up when you analyze it

1738
01:15:34,630 --> 01:15:33,440
and everything with the statements and

1739
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:34,640
events

1740
01:15:38,070 --> 01:15:37,440
yeah there's no holes in this but uh

1741
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:38,080
anyway

1742
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:40,719
having said that so i guess my uh

1743
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:41,920
feather in the hat

1744
01:15:45,430 --> 01:15:44,159
if you want to call it that and maybe

1745
01:15:47,830 --> 01:15:45,440
you don't

1746
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:47,840
is that i actually should wear an

1747
01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:50,560
extraterrestrial craft

1748
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:52,640
if that's what it was and i suppose 100

1749
01:15:58,390 --> 01:15:54,800
percent that's what it was

1750
01:16:00,229 --> 01:15:58,400
of course yeah i got so i'm not boasting

1751
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:00,239
but i stood right where it sparked

1752
01:16:06,310 --> 01:16:03,520
spot brian that is so cool

1753
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:06,320
my adventures here on this planet that's

1754
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:07,120
pretty cool

1755
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:10,880
been there let's see anything else on

1756
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:11,280
this

1757
01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:14,400
same location first

1758
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:15,840
right for the little lane in front of

1759
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:17,920
the farmhouse there to the two sisters

1760
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:18,880
years later

1761
01:16:23,669 --> 01:16:21,760
i'll throw this in real quick oh there's

1762
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:23,679
so many of these

1763
01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:26,320
i'd have to have a list to do a big that

1764
01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:27,440
uh

1765
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:29,600
throughout walking on the lane and then

1766
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:32,159
one uh one particular night they're

1767
01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:35,440
almost hand in hand this beam of light

1768
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:38,080
comes down from the sky

1769
01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:41,520
uh it strikes one sister

1770
01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:43,840
and doesn't affect the other sister at

1771
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:45,520
all

1772
01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:48,080
and then shortly after that she has

1773
01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:48,880
breaks out

1774
01:16:59,990 --> 01:16:56,470
short of breath tired fatigued

1775
01:17:01,990 --> 01:17:00,000
headache you know all these symptoms

1776
01:17:03,830 --> 01:17:02,000
and if i remember if i remember right i

1777
01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:03,840
think they took her into the hospital

1778
01:17:11,270 --> 01:17:07,520
in uh provo or salt lake after that if i

1779
01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:11,280
recall correctly and uh but that see

1780
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:12,000
that's the

1781
01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:15,920
you know that's real actual accounts

1782
01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:17,040
with like evidence

1783
01:17:23,350 --> 01:17:21,199
yeah after 72. that was probably in the

1784
01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:23,360
so let's see that was probably in the

1785
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:30,310
well i can't remember the exact year but

1786
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:31,120
uh

1787
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:33,920
so cool but that's right in front of the

1788
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:35,199
same farmhouse

1789
01:17:41,669 --> 01:17:38,719
of the dairy uh

1790
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:41,679
family that have the uh landing in the

1791
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:42,960
pasture

1792
01:17:51,350 --> 01:17:47,760
so again proximity is a huge

1793
01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:51,360
so if you want to add 180 yards from the

1794
01:17:57,430 --> 01:17:54,239
kitchen window to the country lane from

1795
01:18:02,630 --> 01:17:57,440
where the craft left two separate events

1796
01:18:05,189 --> 01:18:02,640
uh maybe add another 50 yards at best

1797
01:18:07,270 --> 01:18:05,199
so let's stretch it so the two events

1798
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:07,280
are only uh

1799
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:19,510
but not very many people know this that

1800
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:21,120
very few here

1801
01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:23,040
very few of the right people today even

1802
01:18:26,709 --> 01:18:24,320
know that

1803
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:26,719
these events occur that's right and if

1804
01:18:31,669 --> 01:18:28,159
i'm not mistaken

1805
01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:31,679
there was an event near oh i don't even

1806
01:18:33,669 --> 01:18:32,080
know

1807
01:18:36,310 --> 01:18:33,679
but anyway yeah there were there's been

1808
01:18:40,229 --> 01:18:36,320
other events in that same area so

1809
01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:40,239
this is sure there has been

1810
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:41,920
real quick i'll make this one really

1811
01:18:44,310 --> 01:18:43,520
quick because this was reaching into

1812
01:18:46,229 --> 01:18:44,320
another

1813
01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:46,239
if you're into harm's creepiness you

1814
01:18:52,070 --> 01:18:48,400
better here we go you bet

1815
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:52,080
the lady the the uh dairy

1816
01:18:57,030 --> 01:18:55,440
uh she's probably passed away the ears

1817
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:57,040
are flying here

1818
01:19:02,870 --> 01:18:59,920
so she she she uh recommends me to go up

1819
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:02,880
on the hillside and talk to

1820
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:05,040
a woman and her family up there that had

1821
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:08,320
a paradoxical

1822
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:11,760
holy hell and i said

1823
01:19:16,630 --> 01:19:13,760
really so i did i went and saw him and

1824
01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:16,640
interviewed them

1825
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:19,840
and uh do we have yeah let's

1826
01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:23,280
do it yeah let's do it let's go into it

1827
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:25,920
so anyway i go up there and uh she tells

1828
01:19:29,350 --> 01:19:27,120
me that

1829
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:29,360
this happened years ago kids were out on

1830
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:30,880
her swing

1831
01:19:36,149 --> 01:19:34,480
in the yard and the kids saw it up close

1832
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:36,159
and personal and she saw it when she

1833
01:19:39,669 --> 01:19:36,800
walked out

1834
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:39,679
check on the children all grown now

1835
01:19:45,830 --> 01:19:42,400
years and years and years you know

1836
01:19:46,229 --> 01:19:45,840
but here's this great thing described as

1837
01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:46,239
uh

1838
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:47,280
you know we're not talking about

1839
01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:49,360
historical uh

1840
01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:52,800
or a uh uh

1841
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:54,960
what do you call a condor or anything

1842
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:56,640
like there's not calm door driver

1843
01:19:59,669 --> 01:19:57,520
vultures

1844
01:20:01,990 --> 01:19:59,679
yeah nothing like a california well yeah

1845
01:20:07,270 --> 01:20:02,000
the california condor is sure

1846
01:20:11,669 --> 01:20:07,280
yeah and uh swooping low

1847
01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:11,679
close to the swing set and a few passes

1848
01:20:18,310 --> 01:20:15,440
but and they and everybody was panicked

1849
01:20:21,110 --> 01:20:18,320
at that time i talked to one of the boys

1850
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:21,120
that one of the witnesses himself

1851
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:24,320
and their mother was with herself

1852
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:27,600
but anyway so they go to uh

1853
01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:30,320
i mean these are country folk of course

1854
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:32,320
so they go over the dinosaur land which

1855
01:20:37,430 --> 01:20:33,920
you're familiar with over there

1856
01:20:41,350 --> 01:20:37,440
uh north of vernal in the museum

1857
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:41,360
you bet shortly after the fact

1858
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:44,560
and uh point to the paradiso i guess

1859
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:46,960
they have a

1860
01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:50,320
uh sure yeah

1861
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:53,040
i've not been in there myself but any

1862
01:21:00,590 --> 01:20:54,560
and they all agreed that

1863
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:00,600
what the hell they saw that day what

1864
01:21:06,070 --> 01:21:03,199
unbelievable so this is

1865
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:06,080
is crypto if you want to know why go

1866
01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:07,760
into the literature

1867
01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:09,280
i'm not going to cover that right now

1868
01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:10,719
it's too lengthy but go into the

1869
01:21:15,669 --> 01:21:12,400
literature and cover

1870
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:15,679
all the theories of those type of

1871
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:17,440
sightings

1872
01:21:20,470 --> 01:21:19,760
fascinating crypto go ahead say what

1873
01:21:22,709 --> 01:21:20,480
you're saying

1874
01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:22,719
yeah that's just unbelievable how when

1875
01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:24,400
you really like if you step

1876
01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:27,440
back all of the stories and tales and

1877
01:21:31,590 --> 01:21:29,679
events and cases that you just mentioned

1878
01:21:35,189 --> 01:21:31,600
if you stepped back from a map

1879
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:35,199
and looked at it it's pretty significant

1880
01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:39,440
yes it is isn't it

1881
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:42,080
yeah that's that's really really we need

1882
01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:43,920
to we need to chat more about it for

1883
01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:44,320
sure

1884
01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:47,440
it's it's pretty fascinating um there

1885
01:21:51,270 --> 01:21:47,679
are

1886
01:21:58,870 --> 01:21:55,270
you know right here you grew up in utah

1887
01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:58,880
i mean there's tons of these

1888
01:22:02,070 --> 01:22:01,520
incidences that have occurred right here

1889
01:22:04,470 --> 01:22:02,080
oh

1890
01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:04,480
are you aware of the recent monolith

1891
01:22:09,189 --> 01:22:05,920
that was

1892
01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:09,199
spotted in southern utah fascinating

1893
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:15,350
did you get did i send you well i'll

1894
01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:17,280
tell you we'll discuss that one off here

1895
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:17,840
that

1896
01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:23,520
helicopter

1897
01:22:26,629 --> 01:22:25,679
uh department of uh public safety

1898
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:26,639
helicopter

1899
01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:29,040
it was a couple of highway patrol i

1900
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:30,480
thought that posted the

1901
01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:33,199
image anyway doing a sheep count is that

1902
01:22:46,149 --> 01:22:34,560
correct

1903
01:22:50,709 --> 01:22:48,390
so i don't want to jump the gun and say

1904
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:50,719
a lot of things right now

1905
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:58,070
now on the mundane it could be somebody

1906
01:23:03,750 --> 01:22:59,199
that's

1907
01:23:06,149 --> 01:23:03,760
put that piece of material

1908
01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:06,159
in that location but that location is so

1909
01:23:10,870 --> 01:23:08,400
remote

1910
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:10,880
and i mean it just seems almost

1911
01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:12,800
unpractical but

1912
01:23:16,149 --> 01:23:14,320
but i don't want to jump the gun i don't

1913
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:16,159
know i'm not right now but

1914
01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:20,880
um it does seem out of place

1915
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:23,679
well it's reminiscent of uh 2001 of

1916
01:23:27,430 --> 01:23:25,760
space odyssey

1917
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:27,440
you know when all the chimps are dancing

1918
01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:28,800
around the mama

1919
01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:32,000
the monolith that's right the motto

1920
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:45,030
they landed the helicopter and hiked and

1921
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:46,560
found it

1922
01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:48,159
when they first spotted this thing from

1923
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:51,199
the air and it baffled the crap out they

1924
01:23:56,629 --> 01:23:53,120
don't still don't know what it is

1925
01:24:00,149 --> 01:23:56,639
but they despite it well

1926
01:24:02,149 --> 01:24:00,159
naturally so no brainer to not give away

1927
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:02,159
the details of the location everything

1928
01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:04,400
because they don't you know what

1929
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:07,520
which only makes practical sense sure

1930
01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:09,040
sure you don't want a bunch of yahoos

1931
01:24:15,110 --> 01:24:12,080
out there a horde of individuals

1932
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:15,120
trying to find this location in

1933
01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:18,480
the remote outback it's not worth it

1934
01:24:22,229 --> 01:24:20,159
hey we know they get yeah that's right

1935
01:24:23,189 --> 01:24:22,239
general public up there stirring around

1936
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:23,199
in a remote

1937
01:24:30,149 --> 01:24:26,719
outback yeah as you as you can

1938
01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:30,159
understand hey go ahead it's just so

1939
01:24:32,629 --> 01:24:30,719
crazy

1940
01:24:34,229 --> 01:24:32,639
yeah and i mean that that story is just

1941
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:34,239
from this week i mean this stuff is

1942
01:24:37,750 --> 01:24:34,719
still

1943
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:37,760
happening on a regular basis and it's

1944
01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:39,199
just funny how

1945
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:41,440
a great deal of the population won't

1946
01:24:43,990 --> 01:24:43,679
even take a second glance at any of them

1947
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:44,000
oh

1948
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:46,400
they won't however let me i'll pay off

1949
01:24:48,550 --> 01:24:47,120
air

1950
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:48,560
i don't want to get into it now because

1951
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:51,040
i don't want to stretch something i've

1952
01:24:56,870 --> 01:24:54,320
not feel really super cut

1953
01:24:58,390 --> 01:24:56,880
i it's easy to jump the gun on some of

1954
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:58,400
it but i i can't do it on this one

1955
01:25:03,510 --> 01:24:59,520
because i just don't

1956
01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:03,520
know all the details at this time

1957
01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:06,880
or enough to really let it all hang out

1958
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:07,760
here

1959
01:25:11,270 --> 01:25:10,320
however i spoke to and i'll tell you

1960
01:25:14,629 --> 01:25:11,280
this

1961
01:25:16,870 --> 01:25:14,639
until further

1962
01:25:18,790 --> 01:25:16,880
sure information gathered here but i

1963
01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:18,800
sent you some other links that

1964
01:25:29,110 --> 01:25:22,400
dr true lot sent me oh okay

1965
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:32,310
southern utah right yeah yeah

1966
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:34,719
very all right i'll just put it this way

1967
01:25:38,629 --> 01:25:36,239
as far as this thing

1968
01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:38,639
let's not get into it too deeply because

1969
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:39,600
it's just

1970
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:43,360
now it was believed and there's

1971
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:44,080
information

1972
01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:47,520
put out officially that there was

1973
01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:49,840
uh members of the nazi party that

1974
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:50,560
southern ut

1975
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:54,400
in that well i don't know if his area

1976
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:57,120
is the same or if this is another i i

1977
01:26:01,669 --> 01:25:58,000
don't even know

1978
01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:01,679
all that the exact location of this

1979
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:03,280
but we're talking yeah we're talking

1980
01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:05,520
about lay back in the day

1981
01:26:12,070 --> 01:26:08,960
even back in 38

1982
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:12,080
the uh the low all that in that area the

1983
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:14,719
locals felt there was a

1984
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:16,560
i don't want to get i don't want to be

1985
01:26:20,470 --> 01:26:18,480
too far reaching here for people oh

1986
01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:20,480
let's do it let's do it

1987
01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:23,760
there was a nazi party that was

1988
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:27,440
searching for something very important

1989
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:29,920
extraordinary there were even articles

1990
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:32,159
written

1991
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:34,560
really yeah it initially came out in

1992
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:35,679
1938

1993
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in that area that so let me say southern

1994
01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:40,000
utah

1995
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outside of uh cedar city

1996
01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:45,120
that sounds about right that sounds

1997
01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:46,480
about right

1998
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:50,000
that terrain i saw in the news clip uh

1999
01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:53,040
that looks like it'd be to me i don't

2000
01:26:57,030 --> 01:26:54,239
know for sure

2001
01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:57,040
it looks like it'd be a lot further east

2002
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:58,159
well i don't know

2003
01:27:01,669 --> 01:27:00,000
i don't know it might be i don't know i

2004
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:01,679
can't say with any certainty

2005
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:04,800
though it's a beautiful image or it does

2006
01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:06,719
it is reminiscent of uh

2007
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:08,719
the chimps dancing around the monolith i

2008
01:27:13,189 --> 01:27:10,239
think that's a really good

2009
01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:13,199
way to describe it man oh we gotta talk

2010
01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:14,639
again mr leighton i'm

2011
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:19,120
so glad that you were all right okay

2012
01:27:22,310 --> 01:27:21,440
all right let's talk again soon and uh

2013
01:27:25,590 --> 01:27:22,320
thanks again

2014
01:27:28,629 --> 01:27:25,600
uh and i hope your audience enjoys this

2015
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:28,639
um weird high strangeness gosh

2016
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:29,920
how could we not it's just getting

2017
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:32,320
weirder and weirder each day so

2018
01:27:35,430 --> 01:27:34,960
yeah okay well very good thanks for

2019
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calling

2020
01:27:39,189 --> 01:27:36,960
good to speak with you again ryan and

2021
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:39,199
we'll chat again all right you too

2022
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:41,600
thank you bye for having me thank you

2023
01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:43,199
bye-bye

2024
01:27:49,830 --> 01:27:46,719
epic epic classic utah researcher

2025
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:49,840
and classic re utah stories uh

2026
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:52,400
from bigfoot territory and you know i

2027
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:54,000
can't wait to delve deeper

2028
01:28:01,430 --> 01:27:57,600
into the really these are important

2029
01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:01,440
stories archives oral

2030
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:05,920
you know investigations detailed with

2031
01:28:10,470 --> 01:28:08,880
some have video it's pretty amazing uh

2032
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:10,480
how much research and how much

2033
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:12,880
activity when it comes to the purported

2034
01:28:17,990 --> 01:28:14,080
sasquatch

2035
01:28:19,270 --> 01:28:18,000
bigfoot in utah how much activity has

2036
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:19,280
actually taken place

2037
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:21,600
and i think it's important to talk to

2038
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:24,400
these masters of the realm in their day

2039
01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:27,440
and actually still when it comes to

2040
01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:29,920
information and the research that they

2041
01:28:32,470 --> 01:28:30,560
did and

2042
01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:32,480
documented it's important to archive

2043
01:28:36,229 --> 01:28:34,320
this in any format you can even if

2044
01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:36,239
that's just podcasting

2045
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:38,960
i've tried to uh talk to the best and

2046
01:28:43,030 --> 01:28:41,040
i'll continue to do the same

2047
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:43,040
i won't bore you until next time keep

2048
01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:44,880
your eyes to the skies

2049
01:28:58,990 --> 01:28:46,880
feet on the ground but don't forget to

2050
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:03,830
[Music]

2051
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come blast off in my time machine third